the other day - maybe saturday - i finished shingling the small portion of the gable roof at the front. most of the roof was shingled long ago but i didnt get around to finishing it until just recently.
it involved weaving step flashing into the shingle courses which acts as flashing between the roof and the wall it butts into. i used aluminum from home depot which is brown on one side, so the flashing wont be bright or even apparent when viewing the finished house. this flashing is slightly thinner than what i would prefer, but it should last as long as the asphalt shingles.
i was disappointed in completing this portion of the roof, as there were a couple details that should have been worked out better. the intersection of the small gable ridge into the rest of the roof should have been flashed prior to all of the shingles going up. i retrofit some aluminum, but the quality of this flashing isn't too great, as it only acts to shed down flowing water, and may not stand up to pounding rains or ice damns. time will tell. also the ridge vent at this small ridge butts to the larger roof plane. the gap at the ridge should have been set back from this butting point, and i had to retrofit flashing to assist this situation as well.
there's little potential for water intrusion at this portion of the roof, as its mostly over the front overhang.. but i would have preferred to foresee these details beforehand. i will in the future.
i ordered the galvanized hardware cloth for the foundation via the internet today. it cost ~$150 instead of the ~$240 it would have cost from local stores. unfortunately i have to wait for the delivery - i really hope it isn't long.
i want to cover the band joist, but im afraid the OSB covering it will interfere with installation of the mesh. i should have ordered this a long time ago. there are many other products i have delayed ordering, as im concerned about running out of funds and want to prolong that event as far into the future as possible. it's costing me time now, however.
i need to decide on what to do next.
Showing posts with label roof. Show all posts
Showing posts with label roof. Show all posts
Monday, March 22, 2010
Wednesday, February 3, 2010
snow
windows showed up thursday, i finished up the roof thursday. put up the ridge vent and shingled over it. still a few spots need to be dabbed with roof cement.
i left in a hurry due to the onset of nausea, which turned into a week long battle with a nasty stomach virus. just got back to doing work today, put up a few sheets of wall sheathing. expecting 12+" snow fri night. small front gable still needs to be shingled - gable wall must be sheathed first..
busy, busy.
i left in a hurry due to the onset of nausea, which turned into a week long battle with a nasty stomach virus. just got back to doing work today, put up a few sheets of wall sheathing. expecting 12+" snow fri night. small front gable still needs to be shingled - gable wall must be sheathed first..
busy, busy.
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
roof/wall stuff
saturday, i believe i brought wall sheathing to the site and stacked 'em in the house. then i went and hung out with katie all day ;)
sunday, heavy winds and rain.
monday, things mostly dried out. i was going to work on wall sheathing, but i was missing some 1/2" foam needed to cover the headers first. i just vacuumed some water and tried vacuuming some mold, but that didn't work well.
tuesday i ripped off the old felt that was torn up by the heavy winds and rain. i put down new felt, put down the rake drip edge, and started shingling.
windows coming on thursday, possible snow on saturday. need to get the shingles done, plumbing vent flashing done, wall sheathing up.. fast!
sunday, heavy winds and rain.
monday, things mostly dried out. i was going to work on wall sheathing, but i was missing some 1/2" foam needed to cover the headers first. i just vacuumed some water and tried vacuuming some mold, but that didn't work well.
tuesday i ripped off the old felt that was torn up by the heavy winds and rain. i put down new felt, put down the rake drip edge, and started shingling.
windows coming on thursday, possible snow on saturday. need to get the shingles done, plumbing vent flashing done, wall sheathing up.. fast!
Friday, January 22, 2010
shingle shangle
thursday i got out there to find the north side covered with a light frost. i tried crossing it to get to the south side, but nearly slid off the roof before half of my fingernail saved me from falling. by 11am i resumed shingling, and the south side was done by 3:15pm.
i'm expecting rain today, but now it's not looking like much. i need to felt and start shingling the north side. i also need to integrate electrical and plumbing flashings into the shingle layers.
i need to get this done asap, and get some wall sheathing up before the windows show up on thursday. the north side is going to be a pain also because it gets less sun and the frost and wetness stick around longer. keep them fingers crossed..
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From vinnie pics by mike |
i'm expecting rain today, but now it's not looking like much. i need to felt and start shingling the north side. i also need to integrate electrical and plumbing flashings into the shingle layers.
i need to get this done asap, and get some wall sheathing up before the windows show up on thursday. the north side is going to be a pain also because it gets less sun and the frost and wetness stick around longer. keep them fingers crossed..
Wednesday, January 20, 2010
shingling begins
monday i decided i'll need to put down felt again, as the original felt layer tore around the cap staples at the edges in the windy rain on sunday. tough day.
tuesday, i rolled out another layer of #15 on the right side, and started putting down shingles. my knees are screaming at this point. the felt went down real fast this time. i just stapled down the felt as i unrolled it straight from the roll. a staple every 2' or so along the top edge, then run back across the bottom with a staple every 2' on the bottom. calm, windless day helped a bunch here.
the shingles were a pain in the butt to get up to the attic, and a pain to get from the attic to the roof. i brought up one bundle at a time, setting it along the ridge. i dont trust the bundle to not slide down the side, and i dont want the shingles bending over the ridge, so they're laid edge-wise at the ridge.
the hitachi roofing nailer likes to drive a smooshed, crooked ass nail fairly regularly, and i like to curse at it and then fetch the hammer and roofing cement, pry the nail, cement the hole, and drive another nail. meh.
the first few courses i focused on developing a rhythm and a good pace, which i did. but, i found out the shingles were not laying flat, but they were wavy. they came out of the bundles wavy. i guess the cold weather is causing this. so, i had to change my technique so i can press the bottom portion of the shingle flat with my left hand while nailing with the right. this made the following courses much smoother.
wednesday (today), i got out to the house and found it covered in a light coating of snow. so i pulled the temporary ridge bracing down finally, and installed collar ties. i took my time as i was waiting for the melted snow to dry off. by about 1pm i was able to resume shingling, and here we are so far:
i estimate this with around 8-9 hours of shingling so far. sloooow. lots of shingles. and my poor toes & knees..
tuesday, i rolled out another layer of #15 on the right side, and started putting down shingles. my knees are screaming at this point. the felt went down real fast this time. i just stapled down the felt as i unrolled it straight from the roll. a staple every 2' or so along the top edge, then run back across the bottom with a staple every 2' on the bottom. calm, windless day helped a bunch here.
the shingles were a pain in the butt to get up to the attic, and a pain to get from the attic to the roof. i brought up one bundle at a time, setting it along the ridge. i dont trust the bundle to not slide down the side, and i dont want the shingles bending over the ridge, so they're laid edge-wise at the ridge.
the hitachi roofing nailer likes to drive a smooshed, crooked ass nail fairly regularly, and i like to curse at it and then fetch the hammer and roofing cement, pry the nail, cement the hole, and drive another nail. meh.
the first few courses i focused on developing a rhythm and a good pace, which i did. but, i found out the shingles were not laying flat, but they were wavy. they came out of the bundles wavy. i guess the cold weather is causing this. so, i had to change my technique so i can press the bottom portion of the shingle flat with my left hand while nailing with the right. this made the following courses much smoother.
wednesday (today), i got out to the house and found it covered in a light coating of snow. so i pulled the temporary ridge bracing down finally, and installed collar ties. i took my time as i was waiting for the melted snow to dry off. by about 1pm i was able to resume shingling, and here we are so far:
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From vinnie pics by mike |
i estimate this with around 8-9 hours of shingling so far. sloooow. lots of shingles. and my poor toes & knees..
Sunday, January 17, 2010
papering the roof
i've been working very slowly the past week. let's see if i can get this right:
tue i sheathed the rest of the roof.
wed i didn't get out to the site..?
thu i put up gable studs in the gap at the front and got a bunch of quotes.
fri i put up drip edge.
sat i papered the roof.
hmm, i'm pretty sure i could have done all of that in one intense day, if i wasn't such a bum. anyhow..
when i put up the gable studs, i used the PLS90 to ensure they nailed up plum. this tool makes so much sense whenever i need to erect something plum. i should make a list of all plumbing operations and schedule them for evening work where the laser is visible.
i shopped around a bit for drip edge, which is funny because it's such a low cost item. i believe i spent $3.28 each for 16 10' lengths.. so about $50. also shopped around for shingles, which was smart, as home depot was by far cheaper than the competition. that saved a few hundred dollars.
as to drip edge installation: i just nailed it up, pressing it tight against the top of the fascia. i used the roofing nailer, which made it a little faster, but i need to try & adjust it for less power. a few misfires dented the top good, and most nails dimpled the top. perhaps unavoidable.
the drip edge came out looking a bit wobbly and inconsistent across the length of the roof edge. might be better to snap a line and nail to it. also, be sure to check the ends of the pieces, as one is designed to surround the other, and working them backwards doesn't look as nice.
felt paper on the roof went well. it was key to snap a line at the eaves for the first course, allowing the 3/8in overhang. all other courses aligned to that below. i nailed a ways along the top edge before pausing and nailing down some of the lower edge to keep it from blowing over. wash, rinse, repeat.
i had a spring clamp on hand to hold the roll together when i stepped away from it. worked nice. also, on the north side of the roof i just nailed the whole course's top edge before walking back and nailing down the bottom. wind conditions permitted this, and it was faster. so, conditions will dictate your technique and speed.
it's raining today, so hopefully things will dry out fast and i can get the shingles down. i also need to put down the drip edge on the rake ends, and get the ridge vent installed. i'll probably head down there today to see how the felt is holding up to the rain.
tue i sheathed the rest of the roof.
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From vinnie pics by mike |
wed i didn't get out to the site..?
thu i put up gable studs in the gap at the front and got a bunch of quotes.
fri i put up drip edge.
sat i papered the roof.
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From vinnie pics by mike |
hmm, i'm pretty sure i could have done all of that in one intense day, if i wasn't such a bum. anyhow..
when i put up the gable studs, i used the PLS90 to ensure they nailed up plum. this tool makes so much sense whenever i need to erect something plum. i should make a list of all plumbing operations and schedule them for evening work where the laser is visible.
i shopped around a bit for drip edge, which is funny because it's such a low cost item. i believe i spent $3.28 each for 16 10' lengths.. so about $50. also shopped around for shingles, which was smart, as home depot was by far cheaper than the competition. that saved a few hundred dollars.
as to drip edge installation: i just nailed it up, pressing it tight against the top of the fascia. i used the roofing nailer, which made it a little faster, but i need to try & adjust it for less power. a few misfires dented the top good, and most nails dimpled the top. perhaps unavoidable.
the drip edge came out looking a bit wobbly and inconsistent across the length of the roof edge. might be better to snap a line and nail to it. also, be sure to check the ends of the pieces, as one is designed to surround the other, and working them backwards doesn't look as nice.
felt paper on the roof went well. it was key to snap a line at the eaves for the first course, allowing the 3/8in overhang. all other courses aligned to that below. i nailed a ways along the top edge before pausing and nailing down some of the lower edge to keep it from blowing over. wash, rinse, repeat.
i had a spring clamp on hand to hold the roll together when i stepped away from it. worked nice. also, on the north side of the roof i just nailed the whole course's top edge before walking back and nailing down the bottom. wind conditions permitted this, and it was faster. so, conditions will dictate your technique and speed.
it's raining today, so hopefully things will dry out fast and i can get the shingles down. i also need to put down the drip edge on the rake ends, and get the ridge vent installed. i'll probably head down there today to see how the felt is holding up to the rain.
Monday, January 11, 2010
roofie doofie
sunday i sheathed the rest of the left side of the roof.
today, i sheathed about 2/3 of the right side.
notes on roof sheathing:
plan the sheet positions and ensure you follow them.
lay all the whole sheets of a row first, then nail down the end pieces. let them hang off the edge, and then run across it with the panel pilot in the router. fast and easy. just watch out for where those offcuts land.
pry rafters to align with layout marks on the sheets before nailing them. the butt ends of sheets are nailed at an angle, so its fastest to nail down a whole row before going back over it with the hammer, sinking those butt nails flush.
the last bunch of sheets need to be staged for access as the roof is closed up. i just tacked on a bunch of 2x scrap to the fascia and had the sheets rest against that. other options?
it'd also be nice to have all my tools accessible from the sheathing side of the roof, rather than climbing down to the attic every time i need something. maybe something attached to the gable end, or something hanging from the ridge?
today, i sheathed about 2/3 of the right side.
notes on roof sheathing:
plan the sheet positions and ensure you follow them.
lay all the whole sheets of a row first, then nail down the end pieces. let them hang off the edge, and then run across it with the panel pilot in the router. fast and easy. just watch out for where those offcuts land.
pry rafters to align with layout marks on the sheets before nailing them. the butt ends of sheets are nailed at an angle, so its fastest to nail down a whole row before going back over it with the hammer, sinking those butt nails flush.
the last bunch of sheets need to be staged for access as the roof is closed up. i just tacked on a bunch of 2x scrap to the fascia and had the sheets rest against that. other options?
it'd also be nice to have all my tools accessible from the sheathing side of the roof, rather than climbing down to the attic every time i need something. maybe something attached to the gable end, or something hanging from the ridge?
Saturday, January 9, 2010
slow roof
tuesday i hung the rest of the fascia and started setting blocks between the outlookers.
wednesday i finished setting blocks between the outlookers
thursday i started laying sheathing down, got two courses on the left roof.
thursday night into friday it snowed.
today it is freezing arse cold outside and i'm afraid i wont be able to move the sheets with gloves on.
looks like tomorrow will be similar weather, i may just go out there and try anyhow.
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From vinnie pics by mike |
wednesday i finished setting blocks between the outlookers
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From vinnie pics by mike |
thursday i started laying sheathing down, got two courses on the left roof.
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From vinnie pics by mike |
thursday night into friday it snowed.
today it is freezing arse cold outside and i'm afraid i wont be able to move the sheets with gloves on.
looks like tomorrow will be similar weather, i may just go out there and try anyhow.
Monday, January 4, 2010
slowly but surely
today i got the rear barge rafters up. a bit nerve wracking, hanging that 16 foot rafter over the edge, hoping it doesn't fall off. looks good:
also got the front right barge rafter up:
still really cold out, but no wind yay :P i cut half the fascia before leaving, i'll finish those cuts tomorrow and hang the fascia, then get on with sheathing and that last piece of barge rafter up front.
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From vinnie pics by mike |
also got the front right barge rafter up:
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From vinnie pics by mike |
still really cold out, but no wind yay :P i cut half the fascia before leaving, i'll finish those cuts tomorrow and hang the fascia, then get on with sheathing and that last piece of barge rafter up front.
Thursday, December 31, 2009
roof framin'
sunday, i nailed up portions of the ridge board and then raised & nailed up some common rafters.
for most of the rafters, i used a jig to hold them in place while i nailed them to the ridge & rafter plate. the jig was clamped to the ridgeboard, and it provided two slots for the top edge of the rafters to slide into.
a nail was placed halfway into the bottom of that edge of the rafters, and that nail would hook onto the back of the jig and hold them in place.
then i toenailed the birdsmouth area of the rafter to the rafter plate.
the jig came down, and i set it up on the opposite side of the ridge. the other two rafters went in place, their bottoms also toenailed, then the jig comes down. at this point both the rafter tops are still loose, so i can wiggle things a bit to get them in symmetrical positions for nailing. since the ridgeboard has some play in it, a clamp comes in handy here to help squeeze the rafters into position. then their heads are nailed off.
monday, the rest of the common rafters were nailed into position. i also tested attachment of the metal straps and the rafter blocking.
tuesday, gable walls were raised and nailed up. a bunch more blocking and straps went into place.
wednesday, the soffit blocks went up. the rest of the straps were also nailed. the soffit blocking was a pain, since the top of the walls aren't parallel with the first common rafter. this may be because the rafters aren't plumb, though i'm not sure. in any case, it was a pain, as each block had to be measured, marked, and cut. also, most of the gable walls came out off a bit, so i decided to dado the bottom edge of the blocks to fit them in plane with the roof over the walls.
the blocks i'm talking about are orange, and the wall+rafter out of parallel are blue:

i have yet to do the rear gable wall blocks. it appears each of the dados will need to be cut to a different depth, which is going to take a while. this method of roof construction is quite a pain when things are a little off. next time, a ladder-type soffit attached to the gable wall may work better. i'll have to make a comparison of the two.
for most of the rafters, i used a jig to hold them in place while i nailed them to the ridge & rafter plate. the jig was clamped to the ridgeboard, and it provided two slots for the top edge of the rafters to slide into.
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From vinnie |
a nail was placed halfway into the bottom of that edge of the rafters, and that nail would hook onto the back of the jig and hold them in place.
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From vinnie |
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From vinnie |
then i toenailed the birdsmouth area of the rafter to the rafter plate.
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From vinnie |
the jig came down, and i set it up on the opposite side of the ridge. the other two rafters went in place, their bottoms also toenailed, then the jig comes down. at this point both the rafter tops are still loose, so i can wiggle things a bit to get them in symmetrical positions for nailing. since the ridgeboard has some play in it, a clamp comes in handy here to help squeeze the rafters into position. then their heads are nailed off.
monday, the rest of the common rafters were nailed into position. i also tested attachment of the metal straps and the rafter blocking.
tuesday, gable walls were raised and nailed up. a bunch more blocking and straps went into place.
wednesday, the soffit blocks went up. the rest of the straps were also nailed. the soffit blocking was a pain, since the top of the walls aren't parallel with the first common rafter. this may be because the rafters aren't plumb, though i'm not sure. in any case, it was a pain, as each block had to be measured, marked, and cut. also, most of the gable walls came out off a bit, so i decided to dado the bottom edge of the blocks to fit them in plane with the roof over the walls.
the blocks i'm talking about are orange, and the wall+rafter out of parallel are blue:

i have yet to do the rear gable wall blocks. it appears each of the dados will need to be cut to a different depth, which is going to take a while. this method of roof construction is quite a pain when things are a little off. next time, a ladder-type soffit attached to the gable wall may work better. i'll have to make a comparison of the two.
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